>>THE TRUMP CABINET TAKES SHAPE AND MATT HUFFMAN TRADES GAVELS.

WELCOME TO COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD.

DONALD TRUMP ELECTED PRESIDENT JUST DAYS AGO HAS WASTED NO TIME PICKING HIS CABINET MEMBERS AND SIMULTANEOUSLY SHOCKING THE WASHINGTON ESTABLISHMENT.

IT HAS FALLEN TO OHIO SENATOR AND VICE PRESIDENT ELECT JD VANCE TO GUIDE TRUMP'S MOST CONTROVERSIAL NOMINEES THOURGH THE HALLS OF CONGRESS.

VANCE HAS FULLY ENDORSED FORMER CONGRESSMAN MATT GAETZ FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL AND FOX NEWS HOST PETE HEGSETH FOR DEFENSE SECRETARY.

MARK WEAVER, A EYEBROWS, WHAT YOU MAKE OF THESE NOMINEES, WHAT IS HE DOING HERE?

IT IS DISRUPTION, WHETHER IT IS ELON MUSK, THE GREATEST DISRUPTER IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR OR SOME OF THESE CABINET PICKS, DONALD TRUMP RELIED ON ESTABLISHMENT TYPES AND MANY OF WHOM WERE DISLOYAL TO HIM AND TRY TO UNDERMINE HIM, HE SENDING A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT COMPETENCE AND LOYALTY ARE VERY IMPORTANT, WHEN YOU CHOOSE ONE OVER THE OTHER, THEN YOU GET A DIFFERENT OUTCOME.

>> SOME SAY THAT PETE HEGSETH DOESN'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO LEAD THE DEPARTMENT.

>> IT DEFINITELY DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY EXPERIENCE, THIS IS THE BEST POSSIBLE PICK, BUT HE'S ON FOX NEWS, SO THE BLUE WAVE GETS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE MY GOODNESS, SOMEBODY FROM FOX NEWS CANNOT WRITTEN BOOKS ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THE MODERN DAY FACE.

>> I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD WANT SOMEBODY WITH GRADUAL, INCREMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS, MOVING UP TO THE LARGEST BUREAUCRACY IN THE WORLD, THAT IS SOMEBODY WHO WILL CARRY OUT HIS POLICIES AND PETE HEGSETH WILL DO THAT, HE WILL HAVE TO HAVE UNDER SECRETARIES WHO UNDERSTAND VERY WELL HOW TO EXECUTE THAT, OTHERWISE YOU WILL SEE OTHER PEOPLE GETTING IN THE WAY OF THEIR PREROGATIVE.

>> I THINK WE GOT A GLIMPSE OF PERHAPS WHAT JD VANCE'S ROLE WILL BE, BEING THE FRONT PERSON FOR DONALD TRUMP AND HIS AGENDA AND HIS PICKS.

>> HE WILL HAVE TO GO AND DEFEND THAT, MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT IS MORE ARTICULATE, HE'S BETTER AT ARTICULATING DONALD TRUMP'S AGENDA THAN DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF.

ON THIS MATT GAETZ WITHDRAWAL, HOWEVER, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS THE TOUGH ONE OUT OF THE GATE, HE PROBABLY DIDN'T GET THE VOTES THAT HE NEEDED, BUT THIS IS A TOUGH WORLD BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY EVEN KNOW WHAT THE DYNAMICS OF THIS NEW CONTROL IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND THAT IS A LOT TO WADE THROUGH.

>> I THOUGHT THAT GAETZ WOULD WITHDRAWAL, BUT SO QUICKLY ?

>> IT IS TOUGH TO SAY, I THINK MATT GAETZ IS A CONTROVERSIAL FIGURE ON CAPITOL HILL, EVEN AMONG REPUBLICANS HE FACED AN UPHILL CLIMB AND THE QUESTION IS, WHO IS NEXT?

IS IT SOMEONE WHO MAYBE DOESN'T DISRUPT QUITE AS MUCH?

>> IT'S SORT OF LIKE A SACRIFICIAL LAMB, THEN YOU GET THE PERSON NEXT IN LINE WHO IS JUST A SMIDGE LESS CONTROVERSIAL BUT STILL PRETTY CONTROVERSIAL.

THESE ARE WELL-WORN TACTICS OF REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS, YOU CAN MAKE THREE ARGUMENTS AND THEN YOU MAKE A FOURTH ARGUMENT THAT WILL BE AGAINST YOU, SO WE FEEL AS THOUGH HE HAS BEEN BALANCED AND THE SENATE MIGHT DO THE EXACT SAME THING.

>> THAT IS THE STRATEGY AND IT HAS WORKED.

AND THEN YOU HUMBLY WITHDRAW, WITH THE CAVEAT, I ASSUME I HAVE SUPPORT FROM EVERYONE ON THE NEXT ROUND.

>> SOME OF THESE RFK JUNIOR, HHS, MATT GAETZ OBVIOUSLY WITHDREW, THE WORLD WRESTLING ENTERPRISE, McMAHON FOR EDUCATION SECRETARY, SHOULD TRUMP GET TO PICK HIS OWN PEOPLE, BUT WHERE DOES COMPETENCE FALL IN ALL THIS?

>> THE AMAZING THING IN ALL OF THIS, AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING AT BUREAUCRACY AND MOST OF MY CAREER AT ALL LEVELS, AND IT ALWAYS AMAZES ME TO GET SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE SYSTEM, AND YOU PUT HIM ON THE JOB, WE ARE JUST LIKE THAT, THAT MEANS THAT PERSON DOESN'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO GET AT IT.

IT TOOK 240 SOMETHING YEARS TO CREATE THIS STRUCTURE, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET RID OF IT IN FOUR YEARS, EIGHT YEARS, 12 YEARS.

BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A PROJECTION, THEY ARE GOING TO CANNIBALIZE EACH OTHER BECAUSE THAT IS WHO THEY ARE.

I MEAN, TWO PRESIDENTS AND YOU KNOW THAT HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT.

THE PERSON AT THE TOP, TO MARK'S POINT, I THINK THEY NEED TO BE LOYAL, PARTICULARLY GIVEN WHAT DONALD TRUMP'S INITIAL EXPERIENCE WAS, IF WE TAKE OURSELVES BACK, THERE WERE PEOPLE IN THE GOVERNMENT ANONYMOUSLY AND NOT SO ANONYMOUSLY WHO WERE FREAKING OUT, AND PUTTING OUT LETTERS AND CALLING FOR THINGS, HE DOESN'T INTEND TO ALLOW VERY MUCH TENSION WITHIN THE RANKS.

>> IT WILL PROBABLY STILL COME ANYWAY.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE OHIO SENATE PRESIDENT MATT HUFFMAN WILL TRADE GAVELS IN JANUARY.

HUFFMAN WAS TERM LIMITED AND COULD NOT RUN FOR ANOTHER SENATE TERM.

SO HE WON A SEAT AND WILL RETURN TO THE HOUSE ñ WHERE HE SERVED BEFORE.

BUT RATHER THAN SERVE AS A LOWLY FRESHMAN LAWMAKER, HUFFMAN APPEARS TO HAVE SECURED THE TOP SPOT.

THIS WEEK THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS UNANIMOUSLY NOMINATED HUFFMAN AFTER CURRENT HOUSE SPEAKER JASON STEPHENS BOWED OUT OF THE RACE EARLIER THIS WEEK.

>> SO, DONALDSON, THAT WAS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD PICK, AFTER JASON STEVENS, SO FAR NO PROBLEM?

>> AFTER ALL OF THE BUILDUP IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS AND THIS POTENTIAL BATTLE BETWEEN INCOMING SPEAKER JASON STEVENS WHO TWO YEARS AGO DID NOT WIN THE PRIVATE CAUCUS AND WENT ON TO WIN THE SPEAKERSHIP WITH THE VOTES, WITH SOME REPUBLICANS AND MORE DEMOCRATS.

UP UNTIL MONDAY, HE WAS GOING TO BE RUNNING AGAINST MATT HUFFMAN AND HE SAID HE WANTED TO FOCUS ON LAME-DUCK PRIORITIES, I THINK THAT WAS THE WRITING ON THE WALL, HE DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTE.

HE IS CURRENTLY A FRESHMAN REPRESENTATIVE, HE WAS SAYING HE WAS GOING TO RUN BUT WHEN PUSH CAME TO SHOVE, IN THE PRIVATE CAUCUS VOTE, HE WAS NOT NOMINATED.

>> HE DIDN'T MAKE IT, SHOULD THAT HAPPEN AGAIN THIS >> MY SENSE IS, IT PROBABLY WILL NOT, MATT HUFFMAN HAS BEEN POSITIONING THIS FOR A LONG TIME, HE HAS BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES.

HE DIDN'T PARTICULARLY LIKE THE TWO CAUCUSES BUT HE PROMISED THAT HE WILL ONCE HE GETS THERE, BUT WE DO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS JUST WHERE THE CAUCUS IS AND THAT IS ONLY A REPUBLICAN VOTE.

MEANWHILE, WHEN THEY GET TO THE FLOOR IN JANUARY, BOTH PARTIES, HE HAS TO GET THE MAJORITY OF BOTH PARTIES.

>> THIS IS GOOD NEWS, HE HAS OBSERVED THE REPUBLICAN POLICY AGENDA FOR THE LAST YEAR OR TWO, WE HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO MOVE METRO LEGISLATURE --MAJOR LEGISLATURE, THERE WAS ESSENTIALLY THREE CAUCUSES IN CHARGE.

AND NOW THE BIG THREE THAT THEY SAY, THE SPEAKER AND THE GOVERNOR CAN ONCE AGAIN MEET AND CHOOSE THE NEXT DIRECTION.

>> DEMOCRATS HAD A ROLE IN THE LAST TWO, NOW WHAT IS THEIR ROLE IN THE STATEHOUSE?

>> WELL, IT IS ASSIGNED FOR THEM TO GET WHAT THEY WANT ULTIMATELY, BUT SOMETHING I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT, PEOPLE ASSUME THE RUNNING OF BUREAUCRACY IS SIMPLE, YOU GO IN AND TELL EVERYBODY TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

IT IS ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS.

I WORKED FOR THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR, I KNEW THE CENTRAL OFFICE DIRECTOR, I KNEW THE ADMINISTRATOR, THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ARE IMPORTANT IN CUTTING DEALS.

>> SO THEY THINK IT'LL HELP IN THIS CASE TO CUT DEALS TO MAKE THESE VOTES?

>> YES, BUT SEE, IT REALLY IS AN ART AND I GIVE MARK CREDIT FOR THAT.

>> SO, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR LAWMAKING DO YOU THINK, THESE CAUCUSES WE THINK WILL BE ALIGNED, WHAT KIND OF LAWS WILL THEY BE PASSING ?

>> IT IS A FAIRLY REPUBLICAN ELECTED SPEAKER, WE'LL SEE A MORE CONSERVATIVE SHIFT IN THE OHIO HOUSE, JASON STEVENS JUST THIS WEEK LOST A BILL THAT WAS GOING TO PROHIBIT THE EI PROGRAMS FOR EXAMPLE AT UNIVERSITIES, THAT WILL COME BACK AND PASS, WITH A BUNCH OF ABORTION RELATED ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN ON HOLD IN THIS BIPARTISAN ATMOSPHERE, THAT RELATE TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT BANS THE PROTECTION OF REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AND ON AND ON, AND THEY WILL GET THEIR PRIORITIES THROUGH WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO THE LAST TWO YEARS.

>> SO, MEMORIES WILL BE SHORT, NOT THE LOSS THEY FACED IN 2023?

>> WITH ISSUE ONE, AND THE MOST RECENT ONE, IF WE HAVE TO CLARIFY, I DEFINITELY THINK REPUBLICANS IN THE STATEHOUSE, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO VOTED FOR HUFFMAN AND SUPPORTIVE OF HUFFMAN DEFINITELY FEEL STRONGER GOING INTO THIS AND ONE MORE FINAL NOTE I WILL ADD, I'M DEFINITELY WATCHING MARIJUANA LEGISLATION AS WELL BECAUSE STEVENS IS CHANGING SEVERAL PIECES, SO CERTAINLY IT IS A CHANCE THAT IT CHANGES.

>> WE TALKED ABOUT MARIJUANA, EDUCATION, WHERE DOES ECONOMIC POLICY COME INTO THIS >> IT REALLY DID GET GUMMED UP IN THIS DISPUTE BETWEEN HOUSE AND SENATE AND ALMOST NOTHING GOT THROUGH, I THINK YOU WILL SEE THIS NEW LEGISLATURE GET TOGETHER, THEY WILL BE SOME SOCIAL ISSUES THAT I THINK YOU WILL SEE SOME ECONOMIC ISSUES AS WELL.

>> SHERROD BROWN IS MAKING THE MEDIA ROUND, OFFERING HIS TAKE ON WHY HE LOST AND WHY DEMOCRATS LOST GROUND TO DONALD TRUMP IN THIS YEAR'S ELECTION.

HE SAYS DEMOCRATS NEED TO GET BACK TO THEIR WORKING CLASS ROOTS.

>>WE'RE THE PARTY OF CIVIL RIGHTS AS WE SHOULD BE.

WE'RE THE PARTY OF HUMAN RIGHTS, AND I WILL NEVER EVER BACK OFF.

I VOTED FOR MARRIAGE EQUALITY 30 YEARS AGO.

I WAS ONE OF THE FEW THAT DID.

I'LL NEVER BACK OFF THAT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT WORKER RIGHTS IS IT BINDS ALL OF US , EXCEPT FOR THE COUPON CLIPPERS YOU OCCASIONALLY HAVE ON YOUR SHOW, JOE, 90 X PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY, WHAT BINDS US TOGETHER IS WE WORK.

AGAIN SWIPING A BADGE, PUNCHING A CLOCK, WHATEVER KIND OF WORK YOU DO AND WE SHOULD BE TALKING TO THATÖ WE'LL TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS.

RIGHTS, OF COURSE, BUT WE SHOULD CENTER OUR DISCUSSIONS ON WORKERS AND HOW THEY ARE THE CENTERPIECE OF OUR COUNTRY.

THEY ARE WHAT BINDS US AS A NATION.

>> HOW DO DEMOCRATS HAVE TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC ISSUES?

>> I'M NOT SURE THAT WAS JUST THE ISSUE, EVERY TIME THEY START TALKING ABOUT WHITE WORKERS IN PARTICULAR, THE BLACK COMMUNITY GETS NERVOUS.

THAT'S LIKE A DOG WHISTLE, THAT SAYS WE ARE NOT SO IMPORTANT, ALSO WHAT IS BEGINNING TO SERVICE --SURFACE IS BLACK TURNOUT IS NOT GOOD IN OHIO, SO WE HAVE TO FIX THIS.

I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THE FIRST AMERICAN SIN WHICH WAS SLAVERY, AND EVERY RECOURSE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY, EVERYTHING FROM SLAVERY TO CIVIL RIGHTS HAS HAD TO DO WITH RACE.

IT IS OUR BELIEF THAT FIRMLY, THE CENTERPIECE IN THIS IS RACE, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO JUST DON'T LIKE TO SEE BLACK PEOPLE, OTHER PEOPLE, ARABS, DO WELL.

AND THAT IS THE GROUP THAT HE NEEDS TO POLICE AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, HE HAS TO JUSTIFY BLACK PEOPLE.

>> HE WANTS TO RELY ON WORKING VOTERS TO TURN OUT AND SEND HIM BACK TO THE SENATE, THEY HAVE LEFT HIS PARTY AND HIS RECORD SHOWS HE HAS LEFT THEM BEHIND.

HE LEFT MAHONING VALLEY, THAT WAS NO BIG SHOCK, IT WAS ALREADY MOVING RED.

AND IF HE WANTS TO RUN AGAIN STATEWIDE, HE IS GOING TO FACE REAL BIG HEADWINDS.

>> IN THE CLIP, HE TALKED ABOUT ABORTION RIGHTS, BUT IN THE LAST OF HIS CAMPAIGN, ALL OF HIS ADS WERE ONLY TALKING ABOUT ABORTION RIGHTS, HE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC ISSUES IN THE >> RIGHT, AND BASED ON OUR EXIT POLL, AND THAT WAS A MISTAKE, ONE IN 10 PEOPLE PUT THAT AT THE TOP OF THEIR LIST AND I THINK DEMOCRATS WENT INTO THIS CYCLE THINKING THAT WAS GOING TO BE 10 OUT OF 10 AND THAT SHOWED IN THE SENATE CAMPAIGN, THE FOCUS ON THE WRITERS COMMENTS ON THAT TOWN HALL, AND MAYBE THAT WAS A MISCALCULATION.

BUT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHERROD BROWN SAID, ONE OF HIS INTERVIEWS, KAMALA HARRIS HAD GIVEN HIM A SET OF THE SPEECHES FROM MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. AND HE WAS VERY INSPIRED BY THE FACT THAT OUR TO LUTHER KING JUNIOR MANAGED THESE THINGS WITHIN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT CAN CAUSE PEOPLE --HE WAS AT AN UNION EVENT WHEN HE WAS SHOT, AND MAYBE THAT IS WHERE THE DEMOCRATS NEED TO >> GO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.

THERE WERE INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES IN THE RACE, ROUNDING THE NUMBERS OUT, GOT FOUR PERCENTAGE OF THE VOTES.

BUT, IT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE ELECTION.

SO, HE LOST NOT BECAUSE OF IDEOLOGICAL ISSUES BUT BECAUSE THERE WAS ANOTHER CANDIDATE.

>> AND HE WAS ON DONALD TRUMP'S COATTAILS, TOO.

OHIO HAS GOTTEN MORE READ AS SHERROD BROWN HAS GOT MORE BLUE, THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A PROBLEM FOR HIM.

>> WHERE I AM, HE RAN LIKE A REPUBLICAN, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN HE WAS A DEMOCRAT, SO I DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO THIS NOTION THAT HE NEEDS TO BE MORE REPUBLICAN TO CHANGE.

IT IS ABOUT RACE.

>> LET'S GET TO THE COMING ELECTION, WE ARE JUST DAYS PAST THE 2024ELECTION, BUT AS WE KNOW THE CAMPAIGN NEVER STOPS.

SO WE START TO LOOK TOWARD 2026 AND THE GOVERNOR'S RACE.

THIS WEEK THE PRE-CAMPAIGN FOR GOVERNOR BEGAN THANKS TO NOW ATTORNEY GENERAL DAVE YOST.

>> THAT WAS VERY OMINOUS, VERY OMINOUS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS MEANT TO BE NECESSARY TO PLAY ON THE MYSTERY, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR.

>> NO DOUBT, I THINK HE DEFINITELY IS RUNNING, HE HAS ALREADY DONE QUITE A BIT OF GROUNDWORK AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A MATCHUP NEXT YEAR.

>> THE QUESTION IS, HOW MANY REPUBLICANS?

>> THAT IS THE QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL HAVE A GREAT ANSWER ON THAT UNTIL THE NEWS THAT WE NEED TO GET, WHICH IS WHO GOVERNOR MIKE DeWINE IS APPOINTING, SO I DON'T WANT TO RULE ANYONE OUT, ALTHOUGH I WILL RULE YOST OUT, HE VERY CLEARLY WANTS TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

AND THE OTHER BIG VIVEK RAMASWAMY, BUT THAT HAS A PECULIAR END DATE AROUND JULY, OR EARLIER.

>> IF YOU WERE A BETTING PERSON, WHO WOULD YOU SAY IS THE FAVORITE?

>> WELL, WE REMEMBER THAT HOUSTON RAN FOR GOVERNOR AND GOT OUT OF THE PRIMARY AND MIKE DeWINE WAS QUESTIONING HIM, BUT FROM A POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE OF COURSE, HOUSTON TAKES A LEG UP.

>> THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU FULFILL THAT IOU, IS IT WITH FUNDRAISING OR ENDORSEMENT, OR SOMETHING ELSE, TAKING ONE OF YOUR OPPONENTS OUT AND PUTTING IT IN THE SENATE?

2026 IS THE MUSICAL CHAIRS ELECTION, EVERY OFFICE HAS TO STAND UP AND BEGIN THE MUSIC AND FIND ANOTHER CHAIR.

MIKE DeWINE WON'T BE SITTING DOWN, IF SOMEBODY ELSE GETS INTO THE SENATE, IT IS GOING TO MIX THINGS UP.

>> WHO IS GOING TO BE ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE?

>> THAT IS THE QUESTION, THE DEMOCRATS FEEL BAD IN OHIO, SOMETIMES I GET EMBARRASSED AND I'M NOT A DEMOCRAT, FOR THEM, THE MISTAKES THEY MAKE AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THEY LEAVE, THEY WILL NEED REMAKING OF LEADERSHIP ACROSS THE STATE.

>> IS SHARAD BROWN GOING TO RUN IN TWO YEARS?

>> I THINK SHERROD IS DONE, THEY NEED FRESH NAMES, BETTER SOURCES.

SPAY ME >> AND THE COVENS ARE COULD BE RUNNING IN A PRO-WOMAN, POSSIBLE PRO- DEMOCRATIC YEAR.

OF COURSE BY OHIO STANDARDS, THAT IS NOT SUPER PRO-DEMOCRAT, BUT DEPENDING ON THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF TRUMPS ADMINISTRATION, I THINK SHE MAY, AND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS TRUE, TOO.

WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHO WILL JUMP IN DEPENDING ON WHO WILL GET IN THE SENATE.

>> THERE'S STILL CASE IS PENDING AND DEPOSITIONS BEING TAKEN, STATE PROSECUTIONS, I MEAN, THAT IS PLAYING A ROLE , AND IT COULD PLAY A ROLE IN THIS ONE.

>> IT COULD, AND THE QUESTION IS HOW THE ATTORNEY GENERAL CONTINUES TO PLAY HIS ROLE AS ATTORNEY GENERAL BECAUSE OF COURSE HE DOES PLAY A ROLE IN THE STATE CHARGES IN THAT CASE, SO WHETHER HE GOES OR CONTINUES TO RECUSE HIMSELF IN CERTAIN WAYS, THAT IS THE BIGGEST QUESTION AND HOW THAT PLAYS OUT, BUT ANOTHER POTENTIAL DEMOCRAT WHO HAS EVER THEY SAID ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, OF COURSE THAT MINORITY LEADER, ALLISON RUSSO IN THE STATEHOUSE.

>> ANY IDEA ON WHO TRUMP ENDORSES?

>> I SUSPECT HE WILL CONTINUE TO REMAIN HAPPY THERE, HE IS STILL A CHANGE MAKER IN EVERY STATE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY INCLUDING OHIO.

>> HOUSTON AND MIKE DeWINE HAVE HAD A FALLING OUT FOR MEDIA.

>> I'M NOT SURE WHO HE'S GOING TO ENDORSE, BUT IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR IF UNLESS SOME REASON THE BASE GOES UNHEALTHY WITH DONALD TRUMP, IT IS HARD TO SEE THAT HAPPENING IN THE SHORT TERM.

PRESIDENCY REALLY IS FOR 24 MONTHS AND AFTER 24 MONTHS, THE NEW CANDIDATES WILL START FIGHTING FOR THE NEXT PRESIDENT, AND THE NEXT PRESIDENT WILL START, SO I'M AFRAID OF HIM FOR 24 MONTHS.

AFTER 24 MONTHS -- >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, THERE WAS AN INTERESTING IN THE TRUMP ARMOR YESTERDAY OR THIS WEEK WHEN MARCY WON RE-ELECTION UP IN TOLEDO AGAINST MAREN WHO WAS ENDORSED BY TRUMP , THAT IS THE FIRST TRUMP ENDORSEMENT THAT HASN'T DELIVERED THAT PERSON A VICTORY, THAT WAS JUST INTERESTING, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF IT JUST YET, OF COURSE WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER REDISTRICTING CYCLE POSSIBLY BEFORE ALL IS SAID AND DONE.

>> THAT LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE DID PLAY A ROLE IN ALLEN, THAT WAS A VERY NARROW RACE AND TO BE.

>> JUST OUTSIDE OF THAT MANDATORY RECOUNT ZONE.

>> THERE IS THE ARGUMENT THAT IT WORKS, AND SHE SURVIVED EVEN THOUGH IT WAS LEANING A LITTLE BIT RED.

>> OVER THE YEARS I HAVE BEEN A STRATEGIST TO 15 STATEWIDE BALLOT ISSUES BUT BY FAR THE MOST FUN WAS THE KNOW ONE ISSUE SIDE THIS PAST YEAR, I WAS THERE WITH THE DEDICATED PEOPLE.

FOR THOSE WHO SAY MONEY IS ALWAYS THE OUTCOME FOR THE CAMPAIGN, WE SPENT ABOUT $7 MILLION, THE OTHER SIDE SPENT ABOUT $42 MILLION, IT JUST SHOWS YOU WHAT GOOD MESSAGING AND POINTING OUT TO PEOPLE HOW THIS COULD BE A BAD IDEA CAN WORK IN THIS BUSINESS.

>> I WAS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, I CONGRATULATED HIM.

I'M GOING TO SAY THERE IS A TRANSFORMATION THAT IS GOING TO BE OCCURRING IN THIS COUNTRY IN 24 MONTHS, I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL THE CHANGES THAT REPUBLICANS WANT TO MAKE.

IT IS GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING TIME.

>> JULIE?>> IN TERMS OF THE SENATE APPOINTMENT, I THINK WE ARE LOOKING AT PROBABLY BETWEEN FRANKLIN ROSE, MATT DOLAN AND MAYBE OUR OLD COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD FRIEND IN THE RUNNING, SO IT HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR ELEVATING WOMEN, WE WILL JUST SEE WHERE THAT GOES.

>> A BILL TO RESTRICT WHICH BATHROOMS STUDENTS USE IS SITTING ON GOVERNOR MIKE DEWINE'S DESK, HE'S LIKELY TO SIGN IT BUT SOME OF ITS MOST ARDENT REPORTERS ARE COMMENTING THAT HE IS THINKING ABOUT NOT SIGNING IT, SO WE WILL HAVE TO SEE.

>> BRUINS SOUNDLY, THE BRUINS HAD ENOUGH WITH THEIR COACH, HE GOT FIRED RIGHT AFTER THE BLUE JACKETS GAME.

THAT IS A TOUGH ONE.

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