>> WELCOME TO "COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD."

I'M MIKE THOMPSON.

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HASNOT TARGETED OHIO COLLEGES LIKEHE HAS HARVARD AND OTHER IVYLEAGUE SCHOOLS, BUT LOCALSCHOOLS ARE FEELING THE EFFECTSOF ITS POLICIES.

MORE THAN 50 FOREIGN STUDENTSAT OHIO COLLEGES HAVE SEENTHEIR STUDENT VISAS REVOKED.

AMONG THEM, ABOUT A DOZENSTUDENTS AT OHIO STATE.

WE DON'T KNOW MANY OF THEIRNAMES OR WHY THE STATEDEPARTMENT CANCELED THEIRVISAS.

WE DO HAVE ONE NAME.

AHWAR SULTAN, WHO IS FROMINDIA, LOST HIS VISA AND ISSUING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

SULTAN WAS ARRESTED DURING APRO-PALESTINIAN PROTEST ONCAMPUS LAST YEAR.

SULTAN'S ATTORNEY CALLS THEREVOCATION A VIOLATION OF HISCLIENT'S FREE SPEECH.

WEDON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OFTHIS CASE.

THE ARGUMENT SEEMSTO BE THATTHE STUDENTS ARE MAKING ANTI-SEMITIC STATEMENTS AND CLAIMSAND ACTIVITIESAND THAT IS WHY.

WHAT DO YOU MAKEOF THAT?

ITHINK THE BIGGEST CONCERNIS WHAT YOU SAID.

WE HAVE NO IDEA OF THE DETAILS.

A LOT OF THESE STUDENTS DON'THAVE DETAILS ABOUT WHY THEIRVISAS ARE BEING REVOKED AND WEHAVE A GOVERNMENT OPERATING INTHE DARK AND MAKING DECISIONSWE HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME AS APOPULACE ABOUT IF THIS ALIGNSWITH OUR VALUES AND MOREIMPORTANTLY, DOES IT ADHERE TOTHELAW.

SO, IT IS TOUGH TO SAY WITHTHIS ONE STUDENT MIGHT HAVEDONE A LOTOF PEOPLE ARECONCERNED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITYOF A FUNDAMENTAL BREACH OFHISRIGHTS.

IS MAKINGOFFENSIVE COMMENTSENOUGH FOR A STUDENTTO BE [INDISCERNABLE ].

BYREASONABLESTANDARDS.

I THINK ITIS UP TO EACHINSTITUTION AND WE HAVE HEARDFROM A LOT OF INSTITUTIONS THATTHEY ARE HAVING A HARD TIMESORTING THROUGH WHAT ARE THEBOUNDARIES OF FREE SPEECH.

ONE THING IS CLEAR.

ANYTHING PUTTING OTHER STUDENTSIN DANGER IS SOMETHING THATNEEDS TO BE --IN THE DECISIONABOUT IF SOMEBODY'S LEGALSTATUS IN THE COUNTRYIMPLICATED BY SOMETHING THATTHEY HAVE DONE AGAINST POLICYIS A GOVERNMENT DECISION THATSHOULD BE MADE BASED ON LAW.

LIKE, LEGAL VISITORS TO THEUNITED STATES, THESE STUDENTS,DOES THE FIRST AMENDMENTPROTECT NONSTUDENTS?

PROBABLY NOT THE WAY ITPROTECTS ME ANDYOU ASAMERICANS BUT IF YOU ARE HEREAS A VISITOR AND YOU ARE NOT ANIMMIGRANT, YOU ARE A VISITORHERE AND IF YOUCOME HERE, YOUCOME TO OUR COUNTRY AND YOUVIOLATE OUR LAWS OR HARMTHEWELFARE OF A STUDENT TRYING TOGO TO CLASSAND GET HER DEGREE,YOU SHOULD BE KICKED OUT AND IAPPLAUD DONALD TRUMP FOR DOINGTHAT.

THESE CHARGESWERE DISMISSEDAND THE ATTORNEY FOR THATPERSON DID SOME COMMUNITYSERVICE.

HE WAS NEVER CONVICTED OF ACRIME.

DISCMAC THEY WERE PLED DOWNAND HE HAD TO DO COMMUNITYSERVICE BUT ANYWHERE ELSEHEWOULD HAVE BEEN HELD TO THESTANDARDS OF LAW.

THIS GENTLEMAN WE ARE TALKINGABOUT NOW, HIS NAME IS PUBLICAND WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT ATTHE END OF THE DAY, OURCAMPUSES NEED TO BE SAFEFORSTUDENTS AND ALL STUDENTS.

IF YOU'RE HERE AS A VISITOR ANDNOT ADHERING TO OUR LAWS, YOUARE OUT.

THE UNIVERSITY SAY THEREARESTUDENT POLICY ISSUES AND THEYCAN'T RELEASE THE NAMES BUTEVEN THE AGGREGATE,THIS ISWRONG TO BE PULLINGTHESE VISASAND THEY ARE TREADING ON EGGSHELLS A LITTLE BIT.

I DO WONDER IF SOME OFITIS, IT SEEMS LIKE THEUNIVERSITIES ARE NOTNECESSARILY INFORMED BY THEADMINISTRATION AS TO WHY VISASARE BEING PULLED.

THERE IS JUST A A LOT OFINFORMATION OUT THERE AND I'MSURE IT WILL COME.

MAYBE MORE LIGHT WILL BE SHUTON IT.

TED CARTER WROTE THAT STUDENTSWERENOT NOTIFIED AND THEY ARESUPPOSED TO BE GETTING MOREINFORMATION AND OF COURSE, OHIOSTATE HAS BEEN A LOT OF THEFOCUS BUT, THERE ARE 40STUDENTS IN OHIO AND MORE THAN1400 ACROSS THE COUNTRY THATHAVE BEEN AFFECTED.

DO YOU THINK UNIVERSITIESWOULD BE MORE VOCAL?

YOU LOOK AT THELIST, AND THEYCAN CONNECT THE DOTS.

SHOULD THEY BE MORE VOCAL,MORGAN?

I THINK THEY ARE IN A TRICKYSPOT WITH THE PRIVACY OF THESTUDENTS AND NAVIGATING THEPOSITION THEY ARE IN.

NONE OF US WANT ANTI-SEMITISMON CAMPUS AND NONE OF US WANTTO SEE HATE TOWARDSSTUDENTS ONOUR CAMPUSES BUT WE HAVE TO BEVERY REAL ABOUT THE FACT THATTHE DECISIONS BEING MADE BY THETRUMP ADMINISTRATION WITHOUT ALOT OF CLARITY ON WHY OR HOW ORANY RECOURSE OR DISPUTE ARE AFUNDAMENTAL THREAT TO ALL OFOUR CIVIL LIBERTIES.

IF THE FIRST AMENDMENT DOESNOT APPLY TO FOREIGN STUDENTSBUT THEY COME HERE AND THEY GETINVOLVED IN A PROTEST, DON'THIKE MY TUITION PROTEST ORSOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEYGET THEIR VISA REVOKEDAND THEFIRST AMENDMENT DOES NOTPROTECT YOU, IS THAT GOING TODISCOURAGE FOREIGN STUDENTSFROM COMING HERE?

WILL IT HURT UNIVERSITIES ASFAR ASDIVERSITY?

OHIO STATE, THEY CAN CHARGEWHATEVER THEY WANT TOADMITBUT, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES HERESAID A MOMENT AGO, THATTHEREARETENS AND TENS OF THOUSANDSOF FOREIGN STUDENTS ACROSS THECOUNTRY IN VARIOUS PUBLIC ANDPRIVATE UNIVERSITIES GOING TOCLASS AND GETTINGTHEIR DEGREEEITHER GOING BACK TO THEIRHOMELAND OR STAYING HER TO MAKEA LIFE FOR THEMSELVES.

SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A SMALLNUMBER OF TROUBLEMAKERS HERE ONA STUDENT VISA ANDIF YOU DOGET ARRESTED, YOU WERE DOINGSOMETHING WRONG.

AT 98% OF OTHER STUDENTS ARE ONSTUDENT VISAS ARE DOING THERIGHT THING.

THEY AREN'T BOTHERING ANYBODY.

WE ALREADY ARE HEARINGRUMORS THAT THE TRUMPADMINISTRATION PLANSTO PUNISHNONPROFITS THAT HAVE TAX-EXEMPTSTATUS BASED ON THEIR CLIMATESOLUTION,ENVIRONMENTALSOL UTION.

WHAT IS TO STOP THEM FROM NOWDECIDING THAT IF YOU ARE AFOREIGN STUDENT THATPARTICIPATED IN A PROTEST ONCLIMATE CHANGE ARE WANTING TOHAVE MORE RENEWABLE ENERGY THATYOU ARE A THREAT TO THE VALUESOF THE UNITED STATES AND SHOULDBE KICKED OUT OF THE COUNTRY.

SO, WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP?

WAITING TO SEE IF MORE STUDENTSARE REVOKED?

I THINK THIS WILL TAKETIMEBUT I THINK SOME OF THAT WILLBRING TO LIGHT IF THEADMINISTRATION CHOOSES NOT TOSHED MORE LIGHT ON IT.

AS FAR AS WE KNOW THESTUDENTS ARE STILL HERE.

THEY HAVE NOT BEEN TAKEN TODETENTION CENTERS IN LOUISIANAOR SOMEWHEREELSE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT OHIO STATESTUDENTSHAVE BEENDEPORTED.

OHIO LAWMAKERS RECENTLYPASSED A LAW THAT BANSDIVERSITY PROGRAMS AND FACULTYSTRIKES AT PUBLIC COLLEGES ANDUNIVERSITIES.

NOW A PROVISION IN THE HOUSEBUDGET PROPOSAL TRIES TO EXTENDTHE BAN TO PRIVATE COLLEGES.

THE PROVISION SAYS IF PRIVATESCHOOLS DON'T BAN DEI PROGRAMS,THEIR STUDENTS WOULD NOT BEELIGIBLE FOR THE GOVERNOR'SMERIT SCHOLARSHIP.

THE SCHOLARSHIP GOES TO TOPOHIO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

IT AMOUNTS TO $5000 A YEAR.

ABOUT A FIFTH OF THESCHOLARSHIPS GO TO STUDENTSATTENDING PRIVATE SCHOOLS.

SO, SARAH DONALDSON, WHAT ISTHE REASON BEHIND THIS?

I THINK THERE MIGHT BE ACOUPLE OF THINGS AT PLAY.

THE ASSOCIATION OF PRIVATECOLLEGES OF OHIO IS SURPRISEDBY IT BECAUSE STUDENTSTHAT ITCAN'T THOSE UNIVERSITIES ANDCOLLEGES ARE ABLE TO BENEFITFROMTHESE SCHOLARSHIPS.

THEY WOULD BEUNDER ANTI-DEIREQUIREMENTS,THESE PRIVATECOLLEGES WOULD ALSO HAVE TOADMIT ANY OHIO STUDENT WITHIN10% OF THEIRGRADUATING CLASS.

INITIALLY THE BUDGET PROVISIONELIMINATED PRIVATE COLLEGESFROM GETTING THESE SCHOLARSHIPSAT ALL.

I AM NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THEMOTIVATION IS BUT THERE IS ASTRUGGLE BECAUSE THE PRIVATECOLLEGES ARE FOUNDED ONRELIGIOUS DOCTRINE WHETHER THATIS CATHOLIC OR BAPTIST.

THEY ARE FOUNDED ONRELIGIOUSDOCTRINE.

RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS WOULD BEEXEMPTED.

IT IS A RELIGIOUS POSITION THATTHEY TAKE.

MIKE, WHY IS THE STATE GETTINGINVOLVED?

THESE ARE PRIVATE SCHOOLS.

WHY IS THE STATE TRYING TOCONTROL HOW THEY OPERATE?

[ INDISCERNABLE ] COMPARED TOOHIO STATE.

IF A PRIVATE INSTITUTIONWANTS TO ENTICE STUDENTS THEYWANT TO USEPUBLIC TAX DOLLARS,MY TAX DOLLARS AND THEY AREGOING TO FOLLOW THE RULES.

THEY WON'T SAY WE WILL NEVERTAKE A STUDENT WITHPUBLICDOLLARS.

BUT THERE IS A PROVISION OFHOUSE BILL 96THAT SAYS ANYSTUDENTS --WE ARE NOT GOING TOBAN ASIAN STUDENTS OR BLACKSTUDENTS OR ANY STUDENT.

ANYBODY THAT QUALIFIES FOR THEGOVERNOR SCHOLARSHIP, YOU WOULDHAVE TO TAKE IT.

WE ARE SEEING SO MANY CAMPUSES,EVEN IN OHIO, NOT THEASIANSTUDENTS, THERE ARE TOO MANYASIAN STUDENTS.

WHY WOULD WEDO THAT?

I WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT I WASSAYING ABOUT THE TOP 10% ANDCONCERNFROM COLLEGES IS SOMEOF THE UNIVERSITIES DON'T HAVETHE RESOURCES TO ADMIT THATMANY STUDENTS IF THEY WERE TOHAVE AN INFLUX OF STUDENTS.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT ANTIOCHCOLLEGE OPERATING ON A SMALLPARCEL OF LAND, THEY WOULD NOTBE ABLE TO ADMIT SAY A HUGENUMBEROF STUDENTS.

SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHATI WAS SAYING ON THAT.

SO A SMALLER SCALE BUTSIMILAR TO WHAT THE TRUMPADMINISTRATION IS DOING WITHHARVARD AND IVYLEAGUECOLLEGES.

I THINK IT IS VERY CLOSELYRELATED.

TRYING TO USE THE EVERY LEVELOF PUBLIC RESOURCE TO DRIVEPRIVATE BEHAVIOR AND IT IS ASLIPPERY SLOPE AND SHOULD BECONCERNING FOR ALL OFUS ANDNOT BEING ABLE TO, AS A PRIVATEINSTITUTION, OPERATE AS YOUWANT.

IS THIS REALLY THE FOCUS FOROHIO?

I THINK THERE ARE BIGGERCHALLENGES TRYING TO GET YOUNGPEOPLE TO STAY IN THE STATE ANDNOT BLOCK OUT INCLUSION.

IF YOU KEEP THE STUDENTSFROM USING THESE SCHOLARSHIPS,ARE YOU NOT ALLOWING THEDOLLARS TO FOLLOWTHE STUDENTS [ INDISCERNABLE ] VOUCHERS IN K-12 SCHOOLS WHERE YOU CAN USETHE VOUCHER TO GO TOPRIVATESCHOOL AND YOU ARE SAYING TOTHE STUDENTS YOU CAN'T USE ORVOUCHER TO GO TO THIS SCHOOL ORTHIS SCHOLARSHIP TO GO TO THISSCHOOL BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DEIPROGRAM.

I STRUGGLE TO MAKE THATCONNECTION BECAUSE THEGOVERNMENT IS TRYING TOINTRODUCE --INDUCEUNIVERSITIES TOACCEPTDIVERSITY.

ARE SCHOOLS DISCRIMINATINGAGAINST KIDS-- ACROSS THE COUNTRY, YES.

IN OHIO?

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T THINKANYBODY KNOWS.

COULDIT BE HAPPENING?

THEY ARE SAYING, HEY, PRIVATEUNIVERSITY, IF YOU WANT TO TAKEADVANTAGE OF OUR TAX DOLLARSAND SCHOLARSHIP YOU HAVE TOMAKE SURE IT IS OPEN TO ANYONE.

YOU CAN'T DISCRIMINATE AGAINSTANYONE.

THAT IS A GOOD THING.

WE ARE IN THE BUDGET PROCESSAND THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGEAND THE GOVERNOR TESTGOVERNMENT IS GOING TO HAVE ASAY.

WHAT ISTHE OPPOSITION LIKE?

WHEN YOU LOOK ATSPECIFICALLY, THERE WASOPPOSITION AMONG FACULTY AMONGSENATE BILL ONEPUBLICUNIVERSITIES AND PRIVATEUNIVERSITIES ARE NOW FRUSTRATEDBASED OFF THE FACT THATTHEYWEREN'T REALLY PART OF THEDEBATE WHEN IT CAME TO THE LAWAND NOW SENATE BILL ONE IS LAWAND THEY ARE PART OF THEDEBATE.

THE ASSOCIATION OF INDEPENDENTCOLLEGESAND UNIVERSITIES ISGOING BEYOND THE DEIREQUIREMENTS IN SENATE BILL ONEBECAUSE THEY SAYBASED ONFEDERAL REGULATIONS THEY HAVEELIMINATED A LOT OF THESEPROGRAMS THERE ARE CONCERNSTHAT I HAVE HEARDPRIVATE ANDINDEPENDENT COLLEGES SHARINGPERTINENTINFORMATION THATPUBLIC UNIVERSITIES ARE UNDERTHOSE REQUIREMENTS.

WERE THEY PART OF THEPRIVATE SCHOOL ASSOCIATIONS,WERE THEY LOBBYING AGAINST THATSENATE BILL ONE?

THEY WEREN'T BECAUSE THEYWERE NOT PART OF THECONVERSATION.

THAT IS WHAT THEYTELL ME.

I THINK THIS IS WHATWE AREGOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WAKING UP TOSEE THERE ARE CARVEOUTS.

WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO TAKEOVER A COUNTRY AND RESTRICTPEOPLE, --.

WHEN ARE WE ALL GOING TO STANDUP?

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT TOPIC.

OHIO AND MUCHOF THE NATIONFACES A HOUSING SHORTAGE AND INPARTICULAR AN AFFORDABLEHOUSING SHORTAGE.

THIS WEEKCOLUMBUS MAYOR ANDREW GINTHERANNOUNCED THE CITY WOULD ASKVOTERS TO APPROVE A $500MILLION BOND PACKAGE TO BUILDAFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AT THE STATE LEVEL, GOVERNORDEWINE WANTS TO SPEND $100MILLION TO BUILD AFFORDABLEHOUSES IN RURAL AREAS.

THE HOUSE BUDGET REMOVED THATIDEA FROM ITS BUDGET.

AT LEASTFOR NOW.

WHAT IS THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENTIN THIS HOUSING MARKET?

TO TRY TO DEVELOPAFFORDABLEHOUSING?

I THINK THERE SHOULD BE AROLE FOR GOVERNMENT.

WE CLEARLY HAVE A HOUSINGSHORTAGE IN FRANKLIN COUNTY.

IT IS A NATIONAL ISSUE.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVEQUESTIONS.

WE HAVE, AS VOTERS IN COLUMBUS,APPROVED A COUPLE OF BONDS FORAFFORDABLE HOUSING SO MAKINGSURE THAT WE HAVE SECURITY INTHE STATE TO SUPPORT ANOTHERBOND OFFERINGTHAT WILL PAY OFFTHESE AT BONDS SHOULD BE ONE OFTHE QUESTIONS THAT WE ARE ALLASKING AND MAYBE WE DON'T NEEDTO ASK IT.

MAYBE THEY ARE JUST SHARING THEINFORMATION WITH US SO WE KNOWTHIS IS A PRUDENT STEP BUT INTERMS OF CREATINGMORE HOUSINGAND SUPPORTING IT IN THEFEDERAL ENVIRONMENT, I AM GLADTO SEE THAT IS A PRIORITY.

SO WE MAY STILL HAVE THEAFFORDABLE HOUSING PROBLEM,BECAUSE IT IS A PROBLEM.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

OUR COUNTY ANDSTATE SPENDSMILLIONS AND MILLIONS OFDOLLARS TO SOLVE THE HOUSINGCRISIS AND WE ARE STILL INCRISIS.

I AGREE ON THE QUESTIONSOFFISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT BUT ATTHE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE [INDISCERNABLE ] IN CENTRAL OHIOAND MID-OHIO.

THEY PUT OUT A STUDY THAT SAIDTHIS IS HOW WE CAN INCREASEAFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ALL OFTHE MEMBERS AND TOWNSHIPS ANDVILLAGES, THEY REFUSED TO DOIT.

THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THESTUDIES BUT, ASK THE LEADERSWHY THEY WON'T BUILDTHEHOUSING.

THEY CREEP IS ONLY TO KEEPMIDDLE-CLASS FAMILIES OUT,WORKING-CLASS FAMILIES OUT.

IF WE WANT TO FIX AND CREATEAFFORDABLE HOUSING WE NEED TOTALK ABOUT --THEYARE THE ONLYCITY IN THE MIDWEST THAT GOESOUT OF THEIR WAY TO HELPBUILD--.

BUT, BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING ITRIGHT BUT IF YOU GO TO DUBLIN,--SPEAK ABOUT WHY THEY CAN'TDO THIS.

THEY DON'T WANT TO LOWER CLASS,MIDDLE CLASS MINORITIES IN ANDTHAT IS DISGUSTING.

THESTATE PROGRAM, --COULDTHE STATE, I HAVE HEARD,THEYWANT TO GIVE A $600 MILLIONLOAN TOTHE CLEVELAND [INDISCERNABLE ].

A $600,000LOAN FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSINGCOULD BE MONEY WELL SPENT.

IF I WAS A LAWYER I WOULDSAY IT IS A BOND PACKAGE.

BUT IT IS BORROWING MONEY.

THE STATE BUDGET DOES NOT DOA LOT WITH MONEY.

I HAVE HEARD ON THE TOPICOFZONING THAT MIKE ISTOPPINGABOUT, ADVOCACY GROUPS LIKE THEOHIO CHAMBER OF COMMERCEENCOURAGE GRANTSFOR CITIESTHAT REDO THEIR ZONING CODE TOMAKE IT MORE HOUSING FRIENDLYSO THERE ARE IDEAS OUT THERE.

BUT, THERE IS NOT A LOTMOVING.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE HISTORY,GOING BACK DECADES, WE WENTFROM HOUSINGPROJECTS ANDSECTION 8 HOUSING, WHICH ISSTILL THERE THAT HAS ISSUES.

NOW WE HAVE AFFORDABLEHOUSINGGRANTS FOR NONPROFIT DEVELOPERSTO DEVELOP APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

WHICH OF THOSEWORK?

I AM NO HOUSING POLICYEXPERT BY ANY MEANS BUT I THINKTHERE ARE MODELS.

THEYTALKED ABOUT --AND YOUCAN LOOKAT PEOPLE LIKE, IDON'T KNOW.

I THINK SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS [ INDISCERNABLE ] ENDEDUPBECOMINGA SENATOR OF THEUNITED STATES SO THERE AREMODELS OF SUCCESS OUT OF IT.

I THINK WE SAW A DEPLETION OFRESOURCES PUT INTO THAT TYPE OFHOUSING STRATEGY AND ALSO OTHERDEVELOPMENT DECISIONS THAT WEREBEING MADE THAT WERE ISOLATINGPOVERTY, LIKE MIKE WAS SUGGESTING.

WE HAVE A LOT OFFOLKS THAT ARE INNOVATING ANDTHE MANUFACTURING OF HOUSINGAND DIFFERENT MODELS AND TRYINGTO MAKE IT CHEAPER TO PUTUPHOUSING.

I THINK ALL IDEAS SHOULD BE ONTHE TABLE AND ONE THING THAT ISNOT HELPING IS A LOT OF VERYLARGE ASSET MANAGERS THAT THATARE STARTING TO PICK UP HOUSINGAND CONTROL THE SINGLE-FAMILYMARKET THAT IS MAKING IT HARDERFOR PEOPLE TO BUY.

THAT IS THE --MAYORS PLAN.

HE WANTSTO MONITOR --THAT CANBUY HOUSES.

THEY WANT TO LOOK AT ABANDONEDHOMES AND MAKE SURE THEY AREUTILIZED PROPERLY.

WHO DECIDES --WHAT IS THEDEFINITIONOF AFFORDABLE?

AT THE END OF THE DAY THEMARKET DETERMINES WHAT ISAFFORDABLE.

IT DEPENDS ON --WE ARE GIVINGOUT VOUCHERS TO IMMIGRANTS ANDIT HAS RAISED THE COST OFMONTHLY RENT BECAUSE THEY HAVEA GUARANTEED CHECK COMING IN SOTHE GOVERNMENT CAN MAKE THEMPAY WHATEVER THEY WANT.

THE STATE TRIED TO PASS A LAWOR INTRODUCE A LAW IN THESENATETO BAN THESE GROUPSCOMING IN AND BUYING A POLICYTHEN PUTTING THEM OUT TO RENT.

IF THEY GO ANYWHERE, AND I'MNOT SURE IF THAT IS THEANSWER,BUT IT IS A DIFFICULTCIRCUMSTANCE AND WE CAN BUILDMORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IF THE MAYOR WILL JUST OPEN UPTHE DOORS.

IT IS NOT JUST HOUSING ANDTHIS IS WHAT WE HAVE HEARD.

WE CAN'T LOOK AT HOUSING JUSTIN ANISOLATED BUBBLE.

IT IS PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO EARNENOUGH MONEY TO SUPPORTAFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH MONEYYOU HAVECOMING IN.

IF YOU HAVE A LIMIT ON RETAILJOBS IN THE ECONOMY AND IT WILLNEVER BE ENOUGH TO GET YOU UPTHE HOUSING LETTER.

IN CENTRAL OHIO THEAUTOMOBILE REMAINS THE CHOICEOF MOST TO GET FROM POINT A TOPOINT B.

BUT EFFORTS CONTINUETO GIVE COMMUTERS AND TRAVELERSOTHER OPTIONS.

THE DREAM OF RESTORINGINTERCITY PASSENGER RAILSERVICE TO COLUMBUS TOOK A TINYSTEP FORWARD WHEN THE HOUSEDECIDED TO SPEND $50,000.

SO, OHIO CAN REJOIN A GROUPTRYING TO BOOST MIDWESTPASSENGER RAIL SERVICE.

AND THE DREAM OF FREE COTA BUSRIDES IS ALIVE.

THE COTA BOARD WILL HIRE A FIRMTO STUDY THE IDEA OFELIMINATING PASSENGER FARES.

PASSENGER FARES MAKE UP 10-15% OF COTA'S ANNUAL REVENUE.

SO $50,000, WHERE ARE THEY GOINGTO GET THAT MONEY?

I DON'T KNOW.

$50,000?

I THINK THAT IS A CLEAR SIGNTHEY ARE SERIOUS AND I AM NOTSURE IT SHOULD BE.

YOU LOOK AT THE STATE OFCALIFORNIA WHO SPENT HUNDREDSOF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON RAIL.

WE'RE NOT CALIFORNIA.

I GET THATBUT AT THE END OFTHE DAY HOW ON THE EARTH WOULDWE AFFORD [INDISCERNABLE ].

ITIS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE TRIED TO PROTRACT DOWN ANDYOU ARE GOING TO END UP HITTINGWETLANDS AND PRESERVE.

IT IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

WHAT IS DRIVING CARS,WE HAVE--AND THIS IS WHOWE ARE.

I AM NOT SURE THEY WOULD PASSTODAY BUT AT THE END OF THEDAY, WE JUST HAVE TO ACCEPT THEFACT THAT CARS ARE THEPREFERRED METHOD OFTRANSPORTATION FOR OHIO.

THIS IS WHO WE ARE AND DON'TGET MESTARTED ON --.

IF ONLY 10% OF THE BUDGET COMESFROM PEOPLE WHO PAY THEY HAVE ABIGGER PROBLEM.

I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TOFACTCHECK.

THE TRACK IS ALREADYIN PLACE.

AND I DIDN'T COME OUT OF THEWOMB GRIPPING THE STEERINGWHEEL.

SO, IS THIS JUSTSYMBOLIC?

OR IS IT A SIGN THAT THE STATEIS WILLING TO --JOHN KSICKREJECTED $17 MILLION.

NOT THE BEST DEAL,PERHAPS.

SPOT THIS WAS ADDED TO THETRANSPORTATION BUDGET BEENTAKEN OUT BY THE SENATE SO, WHOKNOWS.

WE WERE TAKEN OUT OFTHISMIDWEST COMPACT UNDER THEGOVERNOR WHEN HE REJECTEDTHATMONEY AND LEFT OTHERCONVERSATIONS ABOUT PASSENGERRAILSBUT, IF --WE WILL HAVEANOTHER GOVERNOR AND WE MAYHAVE ANOTHER PRESIDENT FOR ANYOF THIS WE'LLGET DONE.

SO, COTA, IT IS ONLY 12%.

AND YOU GET FOLKS TO --RIDE THE BUS.

I THINK WESHOULD DO COTA.

THERE IS THIS PERCEPTION THATWHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS WEHAVE A FUNCTIONAL PUBLICTRANSIT SYSTEM OR EVERYONE HASTHEIR CAR TAKEN AWAY.

NO.

IT IS VERY POSSIBLE BUT I DOTHINK WE LOOK AT OTHER STATESTHAT HAVE SUCCESSFULLYINTEGRATED.

PEOPLE HAVE CARS, THEY TAKE THETRAIN, THEY GOT ONTHE BUS.

YOU WANT AS MANY PEOPLE ASPOSSIBLE TO UTILIZE THESESERVICES.

MAKE IT FREE AND LET SHOWPEOPLE WHAT IS POSSIBLE.

SOCAL WORK FROM HOME IS REALAND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WORKTHREE DAYS A WEEK ANDONEPERSON HAS TO GO DOWNTOWN THREEDAYS A WEEKTO WORK.

SOME CUTBACK AND TAKE ONE CARAND THE OTHER CAN TAKE THE BUSDOWNTOWN THREE DAYS A WEEK ANDIT WOULD SAVE ON EMISSIONS ANDMONEY.

IS THAT AN IDEA?

THAT SCENARIO HAS BEENAVAILABLE FOR 30 YEARS.

PEOPLE WANT TO DRIVETHEIR CAR.

COTA IS NOT CONVENIENT.

SOME OF THE PICKUP SPOTS, I'MNOT DRIVING THERE.

WHEN IS THE LAST TIME SOMEBODYSAID, IT'S OUR ANNIVERSARY.

HONEY, LET'S JUMP ON THE COTAIN DOWNTOWN.

THAT'S NOT GOINGTO HAPPEN.

PEOPLE HAVE CHOICES AND THEYWILL BE ABLE TOMAKE CHOICES.

BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLEDON'T WANT TO DO WHEN GOING OUTTO CELEBRATE THEIR ANNIVERSARY?

POTENTIAL HE GET IN AN ACCIDENTWITH ADRUNK DRIVER.

WE NEED TO GET TO OUR FINALOFF THE RECORDSHOT.

MORGAN.

AS MUCH AS I WANT TO TAKE ASHOT AT MIKE I AM GOING TO MOVEON AND CELEBRATE THE VICTORY INTHE DEPARTMENT OFJUSTICE WITHLOOKING AT THE GOOGLE AD TECHMONOPOLY.

IT COULD CHANGE THE FACE OF THEINTERNET AND SUPPORT LOCALJOURNALISM THAT HAS STRUGGLEDIN THE DIGITAL AGE TO GETENOUGH --.

I THINKA NEWSPAPER THATSUPPORTS OVER 800 OHIOANSCLOSED.

LUCKILY, BERNIEMORAN OH --MORENO AND DASHED TRAVEL THERE.

THEY ARE LOOKING TO COME UPWITH WAYS TO TRAINTHESEPEOPLE.

AND THESARAH?

GOING BACK TO THE PUBLICTRANSIT CONVERSATION, SOMETIMESIT CAN CANNIBALIZE ITSELFBECAUSE UNDERUTILIZATION IS AREASON TO CUT SERVICE.

I WONDER HOW COTA ANSWERS THATQUESTION.

MY OFF THERECORD COMMENT,TREY VANHENDERSON HAD144CARRIES THIS PAST SEASON ANDDID NOT FUMBLE ONCE.

J. D. VANCE HAD ONE CARRY AND HEFUMBLED IT.

--RECOVER BEFORE HE DIDDAMAGE.

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I'M MIKE THOMPSON.

HAVE A GOOD WEEK.