>> I HAVE DIFFICULTY DESCRIBING IT.

I SUPPOSE IT WOULD BE A MIXTURE OF GEOMETRIC ABSTRACT EXPRESSIONISM AND MxaIXED MEDIA.

FOR ME, IT'S KIND OF LIKE I'M REACHING INTO CHAOS AND TRYING TO MAKE SOME ORDER FOR MYSELF.

I THINK I HAVE THE YOU ARE NEURODIVERGENCY.

I LIKE PUTTING THINGS IN THEIR PLACES ON PAPER AND WHATEVER MEDIUM I'M WORKING ON.

IT GOT STARTED OFF A BREAKUP.

I NEEDED TO FIND A WAY TO COPE.

I WAS EXTREMELY DEPRESSED.

A LOT OF SUICIDAL IDEATION.

I KNEW I NEEDED --I WAS IN THERAPY.

WHAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DISTRACTING FROM SOME OF THE MORE INTENSE STUFF?

WHAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO TO EXPRESS YOURSELF?

A LOT OF MY PIECES ARE COLLABORATIVE.

WHETHER THEY ARE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY CONTRIBUTING TO MY WORK, JUST TALKING ABOUT IT AND THEN WHATEVER THE THEME IS IN GENERAL IT INFLUENCES MY WORK.

IT'S DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO TALK TO PEOPLE WITHOUT A STRUCTURED ENVIRONMENT OR PROPS.

WHEN I'M DOING ART, I CAN KIND OF DISTRACT MY ANXIETY OR JUST PUT IT -- I CAN MAYBE --MAYBE I'M CHANNELLING MY ANXIETY INTO MY ART.

THAT MAKES THE CONVERSATION KIND OF FLOW MORE NATURALLY FOR ME, OR PEOPLE MIGHT LOOK AT WHAT I'M DOING AND THAT WILL START THE PROMPTING THAT I NEED.

THEN I REALLY LIKE TO START SOMETHING AND HAND IT OFF TO SOMEONE ELSE, AND THEY ADD THEIR OWN THING.

I NEED THE MOTIVATION.

SOMETIMES I'M TOO FATIGUED TO DO ANYTHING ON MY OWN.

IF THERE'S FRIENDS AROUND, THEN I HAVE MORE ENERGY.

BEING DISABLED AND HAVING A DISABILITY, I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GO TO THE FORMER, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE DISABILITY IS SO SYSTEMIC.

I DO HAVE VERY SERIOUS BODILY ISSUES, SPINAL STENOSIS THAT IS ABNORMAL OR ATYPICAL FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

SOME OF THE WAYS THAT I DEAL WITH THAT IN MY ART CAN BE LIKE SOMETIMES I CAN GET VIOLENT OR I JUST DO VERY FIDGETY IMPULSIVE THINGS.

I THINK THAT'S SOME OF MY ANGER COMING OUT.

WHEN I KEEP THAT INSIDE I GET VERY TENSE.

WORKING AT ALL PEOPLE ART, I REALLY JUST LIKE THE IDEA OF ALL PEOPLE ART.

EVERYONE IN HERE IS WELCOME, WHETHER YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF AN ARTIST OR NOT.

IT DOESN'T DEPEND ON YOUR BACKGROUND OR YOUR INCOME.

I'M TRYING TO HOPEFULLY CONTRIBUTE TO BUILDING A SPACE WHERE OTHER PEOPLE CAN ALSO MAKE IT THEIR SPACE.

IN PARTICULAR, OPEN STUDIOS AND THEN MY OWN PERSONAL FRIEND GATHERINGS.

I WANT TO STRESS THAT SO MANY PEOPLE ARE LIKE, I'M NOT AN ARTIST.

YET, THEY ARE, I LOVE DOODLING.

WELL, WITH A DO YOU HAT DO YOU THINK DOODLING IS?

I LIKE TO WRITE POETRY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT IS?

THAT'S ART.

YOU ARE CREATING ART.

A LOT OF PEOPLE MAKE ART IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY GRASP OR THEY ARE TOLD THAT'S NOT ART.

I JUST LIKE TO MAKE SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO JUST DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT FEELS RIGHT WHEN THEY'RE MAKING SOMETHING.

WE CAN LEARN FROM EACH OTHER.

I SEE WHAT THEY ARE MAKING.

THIS IS ACTUALLY VERY INTERESTING.

I SEE THIS HERE.

OR WE CAN GIVE EACH OTHER FEEDBACK ON IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING AND THEY'RE LIKE, I'M NOT QUITE GETTING THE EFFECT I WANT.

HAVE YOU TRIED DOING THIS?

THAT'S THE COLLABORATION I LIKE WHEN I'M DOING ART.

SO I FINISHED A PIECE.

IT'S ONLY 12 BY 10.

IT TOOK ME THREE YEARS TO DO THAT.

I CONSTANTLY HAVE TO REMIND OTHER PEOPLE AND DEFINITELY MYSELF THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT MAKING SOMETHING NOW OR IT'S BEEN A WHILE OR YOU JUST DO SOMETHING HERE AND THERE, YOU ARE STILL AN ARTIST.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE OUTPUT OR THE PRODUCTIVITY.

IT'S ABOUT BEING IN THE MOMENT.